SSPX and Rome
In exchange for the return to full communion of the Lefebvrist bishops -- which by no means could come immediately, but toward which goal tomorrow's summit is oriented -- and other, unspecified conditions, it's said the Holy See could be prepared to grant:
an acknowledgment that the Pian, or Tridentine, rite was not abrogated in the liturgical reforms following the Second Vatican Council;
an acknowledgment of the Old Mass' place and value in the life of the Latin church;
an acknowledgment that the SSPX never sought on its own accord to enter into schism;
an Apostolic Administration, subject to the Congregation for the Clergy, for the Society to maintain administration of its chapels, seminaries and other apostolatesBefore anything is sealed, however, several questions do remain.
What do you think of the SSPX? I hope they do come back into communion with the Pope and the church and on doing so bring a true practice of the old mass etc. I think things went kind of crazy in the church after Vatican II, especially in America and Europe. I think that the leaders really misinterpreted the council and this led to the liberal churches we are so familiar with.
I was reading some of the SSPX's beliefs yesterday and it seemed like a lot of the same beliefs I have. But I have just understood the issues in a more traditiona conservative matter, which it seems is really where the church is. the liberals in a sense are not catholic in the truest sense of the word. I think thats who the SSPX believe are the majority of the church.
an acknowledgment that the Pian, or Tridentine, rite was not abrogated in the liturgical reforms following the Second Vatican Council;
an acknowledgment of the Old Mass' place and value in the life of the Latin church;
an acknowledgment that the SSPX never sought on its own accord to enter into schism;
an Apostolic Administration, subject to the Congregation for the Clergy, for the Society to maintain administration of its chapels, seminaries and other apostolatesBefore anything is sealed, however, several questions do remain.
What do you think of the SSPX? I hope they do come back into communion with the Pope and the church and on doing so bring a true practice of the old mass etc. I think things went kind of crazy in the church after Vatican II, especially in America and Europe. I think that the leaders really misinterpreted the council and this led to the liberal churches we are so familiar with.
I was reading some of the SSPX's beliefs yesterday and it seemed like a lot of the same beliefs I have. But I have just understood the issues in a more traditiona conservative matter, which it seems is really where the church is. the liberals in a sense are not catholic in the truest sense of the word. I think thats who the SSPX believe are the majority of the church.
posted by Sean at 2/07/2006 11:16:00 AM
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Good article here about bringing some of the old liturgy to the Mass. It doesn't mention SSPX, but touches on some of the stuff that concerns them about the Church:
Re-Enchanting the Mass
That was excellent.
Just to answer your one question, I think SSPXers are schismatics and heretics, and should be thought of as such. Since I'm a fairly traditional catholic, I've had friends and aquaintences of mine that have been lured into this schism, and it's really an awful and sad thing to see. I do hope they put some of their wacko ideas aside and enter into full communion with the churhc, but I'm not holding my breath.
Here's the original link to that Re-Enchanting the Mass article, which was at Pontifications. The other day this link wasn't working. Maybe the site crashed due to cult of commenters flooding the server. Or maybe I'm just jealous that Pontifications gets so many comments... :)
Anyway, in case you're interested in what a bunch of people with too much time on their hands had to say about that article, there are a whole bunch of comments on this link. I skimmed through it. Seems like they generally hold a good balance between regaining some of the tradition without losing touch with our culture.
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