Tuesday, February 21, 2006

Reformed Catholics?

I've been recently visiting this site linked above. It is a very interesting ongoing discussion site about the reformation, protestant, catholic, and anglican theology and ecclesiology. They seem to be very intellegent, however missing the truth of catholicism. You can join the discussions or just read and learn.

3 Comments:

Blogger Jason Ramage said...

I read the "Thoughts on the Eucharist" article and, well, I can understand why some serious Christian theologians are drawn to the Baptist/Calvinist point of view and, obviously, I understand others standing on the Catholic/Orthodox side. But what's the point to slicing and dicing theology to the point that you can't find anybody with whom you agree 100%?

This is an example from the aforementonied article, with some of my personal commentary:

I agree with Article 28 that the doctrine of transubstantiation is erroneous. It rests on a problematic Aristotelian metaphysic and unnecessarily reduces the mystery of Christ’s radical presence by collaring it with a contricting philosophical explication. (ooo.. I am impressed by the big words... I'll bet he even changed God's mind on the subject) I also disagree with the traditional Lutheran dogma, sometimes (and improperly) described as consubstantiation. This depends on an illegitimate christological move that effectively collapses the distinction between the human and divine natures of Christ and this move, as I explain above, is rendered unnecessary by the doctrine of the resurrection of the body. (Funny... I was just about to say exactly the same thing.) My eucharistic theology basically resembles the Orthodox view in that it affirms a real, local, and sacramental presence of Christ in the sacramental species and leaves the rest to the theo-logic of mystery.

And after all that jibber-jabber, does he not even realize that the Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches both believe that bread and wine are changed into the Body and Blood of our Lord? The Orthodox don't call it transubstantiation, but there isn't any discernable difference (that I can tell).

10:31 AM  
Blogger Sean said...

It is frustrating isnt it. These people are so "well learned" and intellegent that they do slice and dice so much that there are only now 3 people in "their" new "denomination" that they just formned.

anyway, I wonder how many times i can use "quotes" in this post.

I do like the site though, lots of discussion and i glean a lot from these different perspectives.

10:51 AM  
Blogger Spider in a Mason Jar said...

I digs the picture of St. Jerome. A little creepy with the skull, though.

5:51 AM  

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